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April 18, 2007 05:50 AM UTC
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The President has us in a war that, at best, is tearing apart our military and has destroyed our standing in the world. Crazy maniacs are going around shooting up schools. Genocide has left 450k people dead in Darfur. Global warming (whether caused by man or not) is threatening our very way of life. And you are concerned about a haircut?
Give me a break. He is a politician who is on the television all the time. They all try to look good. Edward’s just gets scrutinized more closely because he DOES look good. It is good to see our friends across the isle care about the important issues and aren’t just focused on character assassination.
“They all try to look good. Edward’s just gets scrutinized more closely because he DOES look good.”
If he looked “that” good, why does he need to spend $400.00 on a haircut?
Edwards is the one actually suggesting raising taxes as part of his platform. And he spends $400.00 on a haircut. Is that the kind of person you want in charge or our country’s finances?
I took the liberty of providing a wikipedia link that gives a list of them here: http://en.wikipedia….
Your last paragraph, really your entire thread is an attempt to push a logical fallacy, specifically “irrelevant conclusion.” You are trying to equate and expensive haircut with how Edwards would run the country. It is illogical, and, as others have pointed out, quite pathetic. Why dont you attack his policy positions rather than his choice of hair stylings?
That was a dry read.
But I stand by my post. Edward’s use of campaign funds for an unbelievably expensive item like a haircut says a lot about the man. It would say a lot about the man even if he were a republican, in which case I’m sure you lefties would be beating this to death.
By the way, I think I should point out (to be fair) that enough other people saw this as an issue, and Edwards has agreed to repay 800 to his campaign to cover his two haircuts.
No word about the spa treatment, however.
Is a horrible form of argument. Why would we spend any time on Bush getting an expensive hair cut when there are plenty of illegal scandals that have a direct impact on this country? This reeks of desperation.
How much a person spends on their personal appearance is completely immaterial to how they are as a person. Its like me making the argument that your wife spending money on shoes at Dillards means that she would be an ineffective mother. Or, since I buy Rock and Republic jeans implies that I am not fit to…comment on politics? This can be applied to any situation. If Bush has followed the presidential tradition, since LBJ, of getting suits at a specific shop in DC, than I am sure he spends a ridiculous amount of money on suits. Your argument would imply that he should not be president, or something, since he drops at least five grand per suit.
He is repaying it because it looks bad, but so what? How much of any presidential election, or any election for that matter, is determined by appearance? A lot more than anyone will admit. Im sure that most, if not all, campaigns employ a stylist and a clothing consultant.
I stand by what I said. If you want to criticize him attack his positions otherwise you are playing a childish game of “I cant beat him on the issues, so I will attack him personally.”
I disagree with Edwards on the issues, but that has nothing to do with this post.
If I may, let’s look at your examples here. There is a fine line between moderation and excessiveness. If my wife spent say…$150 on shoes right now, then that’s fine. We’re newly weds and don’t have kids. If she spent the same $150 on shoes when we had kids and no other food in the house, then she would be unfit to be a mother, and I would be very worried.
Edwards has based his campaign around being the “man of the people”. “People verse the powerful, raise taxes to pay for programs!” Now, the same man turns around and spends the money people gave him to promote that message, and gets two $400.00 haircuts. Sounds like something the “people” don’t do, just the powerful. It removes him from the people he is trying to reach out to and is hypocritical. Now that is an issue.
I disagree with your examples, I don’t think they apply. I think a more fitting example is say….a person who raises money to help starving children and then spends the money on a BMW. Misrepresenting yourself and being hypocritical is an issue.
Lets quickly dispatch your example as it seems more in line with someone like, I dont know, Scott McInnis. Didnt he vow to set a fund for breast cancer research and then welch, or pay his wife for services, or something along those lines? He certainly didnt deliver any money to breast cancer research.
Antoher aside I want to get out of the way, didnt you say that your wife buys shoes for your kids at payless? Just curious.
People have given him the money to run his campaign. I assume that those people have not specified how he should spend the money that they donated to him. Could you imagine every donor to every political campaign designating how their money should be spent? It would be absurd. Just as it is absurd to insinuate that since he got two expensive haircuts that he would squander, or whatever, taxpayers money.
What do the “people” do? In my opinion, they pursue the so-called “american dream.” Edwards, again in my opinion, exemplifies the american dream. The first in his family to attend college let alone law school. He built a successful practice for himself, made quite a bit of money, became a US senator for his state and a vice presidential candidate. Maybe it is because I have a weakness for expensive jeans, or maybe it is because in my job other people’s excessive, personal expenditures are what allow me to pay my bills, that I think this is a ridiculous hit piece on a man you are either unwilling or afraid to criticize based around his policy decisions.
“People” buy a 650 dollar pair of shoes. “People” buy a 200 dollar bottle of wine. “People” spend lots and lots of money on their personal appearance. I think if “people” looked through there recent list of personal expenditures, they would find something that plays on their vanity.
“Antoher aside I want to get out of the way, didnt you say that your wife buys shoes for your kids at payless? Just curious.”
I said my wife buys kids shoes at Payless because she has feet small enough to do so. I don’t have kids.
Maybe this is another good example of a logical fallacy, but I do believe that we’re talking about a presidential candidate (Edwards) not a half-rate former Congressman who spent a huge amount of money to find out that he didn’t want to run for senator. But that it totally distracting and I don’t know why we talk about it.
Now as for the stuff about donors wanting to know where their money is spent….when I’ve contributed to a campaign, I don’t need to know where that money goes, but I expect that it goes toward spreading the message about the candidate, as well as other reasonable expenses, such as a hotel room, meals, gas etc. I am not contributing to allow a candidate to “live it up”, especially when as you pointed out, they have enough money to cover “living it up” on their own.
As for this quote from your post ” think if “people” looked through there recent list of personal expenditures, they would find something that plays on their vanity.” Key word there is “personal” expenses, not “campaign” expenses.
I was attacking the cost of his haircut, not his hair style.
Is that sloppy reading, or a “logical fallacy”?
is spending $400 on hair cut that still looks like it was done at cost cutters. Am I missing something or is his hair pretty straight forward.
Unless he’s getting it colored or something.
When you have an empty head, dress it up.
A: since he’s president the person who does it probably does it for a nominal fee – the prestige of being the president’s hair stylist probably means he or she can charge $400 for styling anyone else.
That said, Edward ought to pay for this stuff out of his own pocket. Too many “VIPs” get so much for free or at drastically reduced prices because of who they are, while the rest of us have to either pony up big money for the same goods or make do with cheaper and often inferior goods and services. Spending campaign money on this sort of thing when he can afford it on his own displays VIP mentality.
It was certainly a stupid mistake for the campaign to charge this to the campaign account as opposed to Edwards personal account (where the rest of the candidates charge things like this). That said, at least they erred on the side of disclosure rather than trying to hide it.
there are two Americas. The bring your own bowl $15 haircut America, and the unique boutique for the mind, body and face $400 haircut America.
You and I get to bring our own bowl, corporate CEO’s and trial lawyers get the other kind.
They even served me a beer during.
Then it grew out.
I’ve gotten $20 haircuts ever since.
Amen!
are so friggin’ petty and ignorant.
So a candidate gets up and says “I’m a man of the people. People verse the powerful!” and then goes and gets a 400.00 dollar haircut. And he uses the campaign funds he raised (partially from people who sent his wife sympathy cards) instead of using that money to communicate his “people verse the powerful message”. This illustrates just how hypocritical he is. If that’s petty then our democracy is petty. Is our democracy petty?
Just having a little fun with Edward’s hair. Geez!
So shiny
I wonder if he brushes it 100 times each night like Marcia Brady?
Haners, sometimes I’m actually encouraged by your take on things. But, at the end of the day, you’re simply pathetic.
I stand by it. The man used the information from the e-sympathy cards to turn around and send a fundraising letter. How pathetic is that? Then he throws the money away on crap like this?
I can understand if you don’t see this my way, but I think Edwards is pathetic
Sometimes stereotypes are so fun! 🙂